MGTOW Is Not The Means, But The End (Immortal Mindz Response)

The following article is a series of responses to a comment chain found from this video:

Of all the MGTOW videos in my favorites playlist, I feature Immortal Mindz (AKA Soul Immortal) the most.

The man is a wizard of the mind, a monk mode expert, and esoteric philosopher. I think very few other MGTOW will be able to comprehend or convey the significance of walking the solitary path. Soul once compared it to Santiago leaving Fatima in The Alchemist.

But to Soul, Monk Mode is only a temporary journey. While I don’t believe he will ever re-marry, he has created a potential blind spot for future dating with his 95/5 categorization of women.

This “virtuous woman” (aka NAWALT) occupies 5% of the total female population. However, he has stated that in modern times, the actual population the average man has access to is at or below 1% , as the other women in the 5% category currently belong to mostly isolated communities like the Amish, African Tribes, the Nunnery, etc.

Since the beginning, Soul has always been a believer in “raising one’s vibration” and Positive Thinking, and he claims that as soon as he spoke his 95/5 theory into existence, he suddenly began to see more of these favorable women appear in his life.

Now here’s the danger. Soul could very well be a Monk for the rest of his life, so he can simply observe and spout these theories without any harm to himself, and even if he leaves Monk Mode, he still has a wealth of experience to draw from, but his followers might not share the same level of sophistication. Men very early in their stages of rebuilding during the MGTOW Red Pill may cling towards any rationalization they can to keep women on a pedestal and never go down the lone road of the Monk.

Last year he made a new YouTube channel, and since then, more women and purple pill men have been occupying the comments section. I salute the man, but Iron Sharpeneth Iron, as he said, and so I must deem that his space is no longer a MGTOW refuge.

The Comment Chain

Charl was among other MGTOW men still stuck in the red-pill rage phase, and cases like him are why I decided to make MGTOW content, because there is a great lack of Monk Mode content available for those men to envision a productive path forward.

General MGTOW does do incredibly well with enlightening men on the pitfalls of dating and relationships, but it’s Monk Mode MGTOW that illuminates the path of self-actualization that comes after that.

If Charl had followed people within my circle, he would have learned that after taking the Red Pill, the best thing to look forward to is yourself, your own freedom, and the new possibilities for growth within your character.

Stranahan was correct to say that Charl is in the beginning stage of Red Pill, specifically the bargaining phase of the grief cycle, and needs to work on self-love because even though he has a desire for self-improvement, his focus is still outward on finding this 5% NAWALT.

The method he is employing to find her is also questionable, and it’s the exact sort of Positive Thinking tactics I said Immortal Mindz’ followers would find themselves in trouble with.

Soul did develop the 95/5 concept from the observations of healthier relationships from older men and women and combining it with his own experience, but Soul himself is of an older generation.

For the younger guys, this <1% NAWALT population is shrinking by the day.

Listen, I’ve read As A Man Thinketh. I absolutely love the quote “Man does not attract that which he wants, he attracts that which he is.” However, I don’t think it applies when you are trying to attract people, because people have much more personal agency than to be treated like objects in this way, and besides that, there is no guarantee that when you raise your vibration you won’t end up attracting the wrong type of people in your direction that may want to steal energy from you instead of building on it.


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Soul has always said that women are never meant to be pursued, only attracted. But if a man enters cocoon mode for the sole intent of later attracting a worthy mate, I will go as far to say that his pursuit of women has never ended; It remained as a spiritual longing even though it temporarily ceased in the physical.

Even when told of the possibilities of a fulfilling life outside of relationships, Charl’s response still revolves around women. His future depends on the quality of women available, and not solely on the quality of man he wants to become. This is the key difference between all the shades of blue and red pill, and the man that has decided to go monk.

This is why I say MGTOW is above Red Pill.

Red Pill is simply the knowledge of female nature, but MGTOW is about your own nature, possibly extending to all of nature, and the road to mastering it.


You don’t have to be celibate to be considered MGTOW. We’re not in the business of denying men of their comforts and privileges; we’re about maximizing personal freedom. Some of us men have realized that relationships with women could be a compromise to that freedom. It has absolutely nothing to do with having the strength or weakness to engage with women.

There is absolutely nothing pathetic about a formerly married man admitting that after his divorce and finding MGTOW, he has had his fill with women and now wants to move on to living a solitary life. I can’t even begin to describe how distorted your views must be look down on a man like this. Even if you meant for this label to only be extended to never-married men, it’s still wrong to associate a man’s self worth to his relations with women.

It was at this point that I decided to contribute to the discussion, and specifically call out the 95/5 as yet another fancy packaging for the NAWALT blue pill.

The reasons I wanted him to reply specifically after he moved in with his unicorn were because:

  1. That’s what I expect a Blue Pill man to do.
  2. I suspected he hasn’t found his 5% yet; it was food for thought.

Men and women are fundamentally different, and that’s why I implied there will be some level of maintenance, which can also extend to compromise. It’s called a sexual marketplace for a reason, for the fact that it denotes the interactions of men and women are always involving some form of exchange.

It’s just economics. No amount of positive thinking is going to change the fact that we live in a world of limited resources. Your time, freedom, and youth, are all limited resources. Everything has an opportunity cost.

I will close with wise words from Immortal Mindz:

Many of these men who are letting go of MGTOW will unfortunately be returning to just another shade of Blue Pill. You must go deeper, separate much further, to realize true elevation and clarity awarded only to the lucky few that choose to purse the path of a MGTOW Monk.

See you on the motherfuckin’ Far Side… and I’m out.


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Two Questions To End Old Habits and Re-Organize Your Life

There is little use in structuring your life on definitive statements.

“I’m going to lose weight this year.”

“I’m going to save more money.”

“I wont relapse again.”

We command ourselves as if we know and have full control of our behavior. We feel empowered in that moment to make these statements, and our resolve feels real, but how great are we really at predicting the future?

“A question opens the mind. A statement closes the mind.” -Robert Kiyosaki

Let’s stop acting like we know. At the very best, let’s commit to making an educated guess, or defer to the data we already have, and lead ourselves down a better path of self-knowledge and curiosity.

Here are the questions:

What is the end goal of this action?

and how does it develop my character? (Or alternatively, what does this teach me about myself?)


What Is The End Goal?

This question helped me to quit video-games (or at least put them on pause for a while), because I realized there was no end-game for the habit.

There are so many new games being released every month. And yet, there are also so many old games that I have yet to play. After I finish one game, I will just have to pull another one off of the backlog and finish that one too, while my wish list simultaneously builds up.

Never ending consumption.

So I’ve given away my Nintendo Switch. In my two decades of playing video games, I have surely accumulated enough data to at least extract a meaningful 20% of video-games that will encompass 80% of my total playing time now.

I have a Nintendo Wii with most of my favorite games on it already, and a CRT TV to reproduce the aesthetic feel. Why do I need anything more?

We may not be able to predict the future, but asking yourself what is the end goal? will most certainly stop you from an endless road of unceasing consumption. You may have already arrived. You may have all that you need for the right now.

How Does This Develop My Character/ What Does This Teach Me About Myself?

This is another great question to ask when you are faced with repeating your old habits.

Suppose you are committed to a new healthy diet, and suddenly you are craving something off the menu. Why should you indulge this craving?

You already know that you want this particular thing, how would indulging in it provide you with additional self-knowledge?

I love donuts. In my life I’ve eaten 1,000 donuts. What new pathway will be opened up if I go up to 1,001?

And there’s no need to commit or to promise never again to eat donuts, but simply ask what is the end goal of this donut? How will this donut develop my character?

It may not serve you now, but it could be relevant in another season. Don’t cry. Don’t run. Don’t have such strong beliefs for yourself.

Let’s just be open and try and ask more meaningful questions which lead to more meaningful resolutions.


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Creativity Is Leisure: Why You Should Consume Only What You Intend To Create

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The average individual’s definition of “relaxing” after a long day at work is coming home and watching TV. I see a problem with this, because the first thing you look forward to after spending the whole day producing for someone else, is to now consume from someone else.

Retreating to entertainment media for leisure is actually increasing the total length of time you are passive throughout the day.

What parts of the day are you experiencing something solely derived from you?

If you truly wanted to relax, you could work out, stretch, meditate, or just go to sleep.

But if you can still keep your eyes open, then you can still work.


I know someone who claimed they wanted to get back into their old artistic passion, and decided to wake up at 5 AM in an effort to create space for this new habit.

They never once woke up to do this. The weekend passed and it was back to the same old eat-dinner-and-TV routine right after work.

Why did this person fail? Because they saw the time spent “unwinding” with entertainment media as a necessity, and didn’t register at all that this was the exact old habit that had to be sacrificed to create space for the new habit they desired.

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I don’t think entertainment media is all bad. I am a fiction writer and would love to contribute to the industry one day. But lately I haven’t felt the juice for that type of creative work, and it’s most likely because I’m not immersing myself in that type of environment right now.

This is why I said Consume Only What You Intend To Create; If you want to make movies, by all means, watch movies! But if you’re not going to work on your script, or at least write a movie review about it afterwards, then seriously, you’re just masturbating.

“Energy Flows Where Attention Goes” – Tony Robbins

We need to stop putting our energy towards things that are going to result in dead-ends.

You have to be even more mindful about what you consume especially if you are an artist or entrepreneur, because of your easily stimulated imagination. Hardly anything is a true dead-end because you can extract some artistic value or a business idea from almost anything. But this sort of behavior can spread yourself thin.

And you know the exact type of people I’m talking about; the ones that always have a brilliant new idea and plans, but never actually produce anything in the long run.

It’s because they have not allowed that space for themselves to create, and are most likely filling up their time with passive, unfruitful garbage.

I could even extend this idea to MGTOW. If a man has already identified that he will not extend any long-term commitments to any woman, then there is truly nothing of lasting value that can be created through your relationships with women. Short-term dating thus becomes another form of cheap entertainment.

So, finally, Creativity Is Leisure.

After I’m done working, heck, even between breaks, I’m at my blog site and drafting a new article to publish. And now, editing videos! (Here’s my first one). It’s only when my laptop finally dies and is recharging that I can turn on YouTube or read some articles on mobile to enjoy other creatives that have common interests.

I think I just began to realize that with all the media I consumed over the years I have very little to actually show for it. But by becoming a content creator myself, I can develop my own personal media library, and have something to contribute alongside the other creatives I’m inspired by.

I’m always thinking about what skill or content I can offer to a community.

There’s no reason why we have to always sit on the sidelines and be spectators; Always the worker and never the boss. We should all have an opportunity to express ourselves and have our own voice.

Creativity is Leisure simply because working for yourself, and expressing yourself, should always be the most fun. Even in your passive state, your antennas should always be up looking for the next point of inspiration.

If you want to relax, go to sleep, so you can have more energy to do the important work the next day.

But if your eyes are still open, see yourself through greatness, and not through the reflection of a screen.

And I’ll SEE YOU on the Far Side, my friend — Monk Moon Base


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