MGTOW Is Not The Means, But The End (Immortal Mindz Response)

The following article is a series of responses to a comment chain found from this video:

Of all the MGTOW videos in my favorites playlist, I feature Immortal Mindz (AKA Soul Immortal) the most.

The man is a wizard of the mind, a monk mode expert, and esoteric philosopher. I think very few other MGTOW will be able to comprehend or convey the significance of walking the solitary path. Soul once compared it to Santiago leaving Fatima in The Alchemist.

But to Soul, Monk Mode is only a temporary journey. While I don’t believe he will ever re-marry, he has created a potential blind spot for future dating with his 95/5 categorization of women.

This “virtuous woman” (aka NAWALT) occupies 5% of the total female population. However, he has stated that in modern times, the actual population the average man has access to is at or below 1% , as the other women in the 5% category currently belong to mostly isolated communities like the Amish, African Tribes, the Nunnery, etc.

Since the beginning, Soul has always been a believer in “raising one’s vibration” and Positive Thinking, and he claims that as soon as he spoke his 95/5 theory into existence, he suddenly began to see more of these favorable women appear in his life.

Now here’s the danger. Soul could very well be a Monk for the rest of his life, so he can simply observe and spout these theories without any harm to himself, and even if he leaves Monk Mode, he still has a wealth of experience to draw from, but his followers might not share the same level of sophistication. Men very early in their stages of rebuilding during the MGTOW Red Pill may cling towards any rationalization they can to keep women on a pedestal and never go down the lone road of the Monk.

Last year he made a new YouTube channel, and since then, more women and purple pill men have been occupying the comments section. I salute the man, but Iron Sharpeneth Iron, as he said, and so I must deem that his space is no longer a MGTOW refuge.

The Comment Chain

Charl was among other MGTOW men still stuck in the red-pill rage phase, and cases like him are why I decided to make MGTOW content, because there is a great lack of Monk Mode content available for those men to envision a productive path forward.

General MGTOW does do incredibly well with enlightening men on the pitfalls of dating and relationships, but it’s Monk Mode MGTOW that illuminates the path of self-actualization that comes after that.

If Charl had followed people within my circle, he would have learned that after taking the Red Pill, the best thing to look forward to is yourself, your own freedom, and the new possibilities for growth within your character.

Stranahan was correct to say that Charl is in the beginning stage of Red Pill, specifically the bargaining phase of the grief cycle, and needs to work on self-love because even though he has a desire for self-improvement, his focus is still outward on finding this 5% NAWALT.

The method he is employing to find her is also questionable, and it’s the exact sort of Positive Thinking tactics I said Immortal Mindz’ followers would find themselves in trouble with.

Soul did develop the 95/5 concept from the observations of healthier relationships from older men and women and combining it with his own experience, but Soul himself is of an older generation.

For the younger guys, this <1% NAWALT population is shrinking by the day.

Listen, I’ve read As A Man Thinketh. I absolutely love the quote “Man does not attract that which he wants, he attracts that which he is.” However, I don’t think it applies when you are trying to attract people, because people have much more personal agency than to be treated like objects in this way, and besides that, there is no guarantee that when you raise your vibration you won’t end up attracting the wrong type of people in your direction that may want to steal energy from you instead of building on it.


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Soul has always said that women are never meant to be pursued, only attracted. But if a man enters cocoon mode for the sole intent of later attracting a worthy mate, I will go as far to say that his pursuit of women has never ended; It remained as a spiritual longing even though it temporarily ceased in the physical.

Even when told of the possibilities of a fulfilling life outside of relationships, Charl’s response still revolves around women. His future depends on the quality of women available, and not solely on the quality of man he wants to become. This is the key difference between all the shades of blue and red pill, and the man that has decided to go monk.

This is why I say MGTOW is above Red Pill.

Red Pill is simply the knowledge of female nature, but MGTOW is about your own nature, possibly extending to all of nature, and the road to mastering it.


You don’t have to be celibate to be considered MGTOW. We’re not in the business of denying men of their comforts and privileges; we’re about maximizing personal freedom. Some of us men have realized that relationships with women could be a compromise to that freedom. It has absolutely nothing to do with having the strength or weakness to engage with women.

There is absolutely nothing pathetic about a formerly married man admitting that after his divorce and finding MGTOW, he has had his fill with women and now wants to move on to living a solitary life. I can’t even begin to describe how distorted your views must be look down on a man like this. Even if you meant for this label to only be extended to never-married men, it’s still wrong to associate a man’s self worth to his relations with women.

It was at this point that I decided to contribute to the discussion, and specifically call out the 95/5 as yet another fancy packaging for the NAWALT blue pill.

The reasons I wanted him to reply specifically after he moved in with his unicorn were because:

  1. That’s what I expect a Blue Pill man to do.
  2. I suspected he hasn’t found his 5% yet; it was food for thought.

Men and women are fundamentally different, and that’s why I implied there will be some level of maintenance, which can also extend to compromise. It’s called a sexual marketplace for a reason, for the fact that it denotes the interactions of men and women are always involving some form of exchange.

It’s just economics. No amount of positive thinking is going to change the fact that we live in a world of limited resources. Your time, freedom, and youth, are all limited resources. Everything has an opportunity cost.

I will close with wise words from Immortal Mindz:

Many of these men who are letting go of MGTOW will unfortunately be returning to just another shade of Blue Pill. You must go deeper, separate much further, to realize true elevation and clarity awarded only to the lucky few that choose to purse the path of a MGTOW Monk.

See you on the motherfuckin’ Far Side… and I’m out.


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Additional Content:

Article: IS THERE MORE TO LIFE? (THAN JUST FOOD AND SEX) – A great primer to consider the reasons for MGTOW Monk Mode.

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Destruction of Male Spaces: An Encounter With A Blue Pill Man (MGTOW)

It would have been Year 5 of the new Christmas tradition to make a family trip to the theaters, specifically to catch the new Star Wars’ films. However, this year I decided to give up my responsibility of securing the tickets this year, even though this was a tradition I started, as I was too focused on MGTOW Monk Mode which makes you less tethered to the outside world; Holidays and even your own birthday begin to lose their significance. Also, the fact that J.J. Abrams was returning for The Rise of Skywalker was going to make organizing this event feel like an obligation and less of my personal passion project as it used to be.

Thus, this story will probably seem overly-dramatic, but keep in mind that I was also looking for any good excuse to skip out on a movie I no longer had enthusiasm to see.

So, I had one simple rule to guarantee my attendance: this would be a family-exclusive event, and anyone born without our last name could not be invited.

Now, if it was up to me, I would have just invited only the single men in my family, but since it was my Uncle’s responsibility now, he decided to invite my brother and his son, so he could also initiate my young nephew into the Sci-Fi Fantasy genre the same way we were.

While we were going over the plans for the trip with my married brother, his first concern was that he had to tell his wife. Initially, I thought he was asking for permission, which I thought was odd because there should be no objection to him spending quality father-and-son time, and it’s a family event.

But no, it was far worse than that. He just couldn’t bear spending any time just with his blood-family and had to invite her.

The reason why I made the rule up in advance was because he showed similar behavior during the last outing, for Solo. Not only was he about to flake on us, but when he saw there were still seats available at the theater when we arrived, he frantically scrambled to invite his girlfriend, and his best friend who would also bring his girlfriend.

It’s a family event. Why is he trying to have this random double date on the side?

My Uncle’s only objection was that my brother would have to pay for his wife’s ticket, but I snapped and said if she goes, she can just take my ticket because I no longer want to go.

What happened next was pure gold.

So, in my brother’s puny Blue Pill brain, he thought it was a trump card to bring up that our grandfather is proud that he has extended the family name twice by having a son and a wife.

I responded, “First off, she could divorce you and change her name, and second, why are you bringing up the family bloodline just for one Saturday afternoon? Really? You are truly a lost boy.

Maybe you think this whole story is unnecessarily dramatic, but I don’t see it that way. My relationship with my brother has already been steadily deteriorating, and I really wanted this movie outing to be a last ditch effort to reignite the old bonds and camaraderie between us.

But he doesn’t want that. We’re not cool enough to hang out with anymore, I guess. Rules and tradition don’t matter; we have to use “diplomacy”, as my uncle said.

Fuck that though. Not standing your ground and making concessions is exactly how stupidity like the infiltration and decline of the Boy Scouts happens.

The Blue Pill man is never going to be in your corner, doesn’t even matter if you’re family.

Blood may be thicker than water, but it’s not thicker than pussy juice, that’s for sure.

After this experience, there is no doubt that all future associations with blue-pill men will have to be kept to an absolute minimum. There’s no guarantees that they will uphold whatever traditions, customs, and bonds you’ve built with them, as they will gladly sacrifice them for the validation of a woman.

It’s also why I’ve chosen to brand myself MGTOW and not just Moon Base, because those are the only men I can truly trust to have my back these days. Even single men like my Uncle (who appears to be MGTOW on the outside), still don’t make the cut because they don’t have the internal knowledge of female nature and the weakness of their fellow men.

I’ll still enjoy the company of my family, but I’ll just say that the world is a very big place. I want unanimous trust, loyalty, and brotherhood. If I can’t have that, I have no problem finding it somewhere else, or walking this path alone, and going my own way.

See you on the Far Side… – Monk Moon Base

Update: My brother and I still have a very good relationship. I know it could end someday, either by one of us moving away or disagreement because of his religion, so I have decided to enjoy what I can from it until that day eventually comes.

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